Declaring/Banning Hierarchies For Members Of Govt (piece-by-piece-Constitution)

(This is my ongoing series presenting pieces that I am formulating into my own constitution for any future country (including LL). The wording is not set and is open to changes/additions/subtractions. Posting about it is just to stimulate debate, as should any good creator of a constitution.)

"Declaring/Banning Hierarchies For Members Of Govt

Active involvement in any non-business organization with a hierarchy is not allowed for anyone running for office or working for the govt in any way. This includes political parties, which are hierarchical, and thus not allowed. Any past involvement in any organization that is hierarchical, has confidential membership and requires members to support and/or protect each other, must be disclosed publicly when applying for employment with the govt and/or running for elected office. Omitting this information is equivalent to knowingly lying to the public as a member of the govt, and is a crime."

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2026-01-13/more-than-300-police-officers-and-staff-declare-freemasons-involvement

I originally got this idea from the article above, which is about how the London Metro Police apparently have been supposedly over-represented by members of the Freemasons, and so they sent out a mandatory questionnaire to all their employees. Currently around 2300 employees have responded to the questionnaire, and 300 of them have affirmed that “yes” they are part of an organization that is “hierarchical, has confidential membership and requires members to support and protect each other”.

Does this shock anyone?

I cannot more fully agree with your statement and would go so far as to make it a requirement for citizenship. Historically the UK law enforcement has had and still has many Masonic symbols, I won’t for the sake of briefness go down this rabbit hole with you on this forum. This also reminds of the Anti-Masonic party of the USA back during the 1820’s-30’s they pushed for similar laws to what you are now bringing forward.

I read a book called Etidorhpa that is a fictional account from the 1800’s similar to a journey that William Morgan was speculated to have gone on when he disappeared, which sparked the creation of the Anti-Masonic Party. The book has him going on a journey to the center of the Earth; it’s a fun read.

Yeah I would be all for it being part of LL citizenship to not be an active member in such a hierarchy. Or are you saying if they ever have been a member?

Since I am trying to make my constitution suitable for any country of the world that wants to adopt it, I was considering adding a clause that said that you could not have been a member in such a hierarchy for 5 years prior to running for elected office. What do you think about such a term?

Well the hardest part is going to be proving whether or not a person is or was a member these groups are by their nature secret and have hidden themselves in plain sight very well for centuries if not millennia possibly. I would say the 5 year ban is good but I do not know how well we could enforce it and what wording would be appropriate since we are trying to build a more I would say inclusive or tolerable society but one where everyone should welcomed unless they have ulterior motives to dismantle the society from the inside which has always been their method of operation. This also goes to the spy agencies and their use of agent provocateurs to stir up trouble. Here in America J6 alone shows to what lengths our deep state will go to try and manipulate a narrative or false flag operations that is littered throughout American history. Most of these people I would also point out are part of these “hierarchical” groups as you call them so there is significant overlap I would argue but again I ask you Murf how do discriminate without discriminating?

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Yeah for sure hard to prove. I suppose the main purpose of this whole part is to set the stage for future prosecution against them for lying if it is discovered that they were part of these hierarchies and hid it. I actually doubt secret societies will be that big of a problem in the future. They can only really operate well with extreme secrecy of their methods, and we are already witnessing the veil being lifted on most of their hidden methods and practices.

Hmm I didn’t think of the discrimination angle… I think I would have to include writing in this part talking about how the “main institution a citizen should be involved with is their own country”, and how there is a long history of secret society members actively degrading their own countries, as well as outside countries. And, of course, discrimination is perfectly acceptable to do against terrorists, and I would absolutely consider many secret society members to be terrorists.

I will hold off on adding the 5 year ban part for now, maybe I will rethink it later. I actually have known 2 people who joined the freemasons in their 20’s for a brief period, and they describe it as a relatively boring drinking club that uses charity events to be able to drink together. They are both pretty honest guys, and I pressed them hard to divulge any strange or hidden activity and they had nothing they could recall.

I have heard that from people as well as that it is a social club I have no idea how to look at it honestly maybe they are just the rubes that never were “allowed” to higher? Who knows…