Apparently a lot more people are working on digital direct democracy ideas than I thought

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So a lot of people have been working on digital direct democracy and, in some places, they are even using some software tools I’ve hadn’t heard of but seem interesting. And yet Liberland, the only place that could implement this kind of idea country-wide, is too busy mucking about with the ancient tried-and-failed ‘Collective Monarchy’ system.

Some of the apps below are in use by cities, such as: Cambridge, MA; Wellington, New Zealand; Buenos Aires, Argentina, and also by the Pirate Party in Germany.

LiquidFeedback is an open-source software platform for political opinion formation and decision-making, primarily used to implement liquid democracy (delegated voting) within organizations.

Loomio is an open-source collaborative decision-making platform designed to help groups discuss ideas, vote on proposals, and reach outcomes asynchronously.

DemocracyOS is an online space for deliberation and voting on political proposals. It is a platform for a more open and participatory government.

PlaceSpeak is a cloud-based, location-based civic engagement platform. Founded in 2010 by an urban geographer, the platform connects public and private sector organizations with residents within specific geographic boundaries to gather geo-authenticated feedback.

Ethelo is a digital democracy platform and algorithm designed to help groups and communities reach consensus on complex, multifactor policy decisions by moving beyond simple majority voting.

Polco is a community engagement platform that often uses geolocation to show you relevant local issues.

The eAssembly democracy app is a digital platform designed to facilitate participatory democracy and direct decision-making within organizations, communities, or governments. It enables users to propose, deliberate, and vote on issues in a structured, transparent manner — often inspired by models like liquid democracy, sortition, or citizens’ assemblies.

And also, apparently, Paris and South Dublin use participatory budgeting.

And there is a yearly meeting called the “Global Forum on Modern Direct Democracy”

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I’ve been saying the same thing on some of the other posts. I have no understanding as to why we want to replicate systems that have shown consistent and utter failure since ancient times. We don’t need a senate and we don’t need a congress and we don’t need any leaders for that matter at all. The last thing we want is representative democracy. Direct democracy is the future, it is the way and I sincerely hope that everybody gets that straight and it can be implemented for the first time ever in Liberland.

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I totally agree. Liberland can either go down in history as the first ever digital direct democracy, or it can be forgotten and ignored. I really don’t see any other option.

The type of citizenry that would work on behalf of building a collective monarchy system are not the type of people I care to spend any time around. The only ones I see participating in that are probably pushed into it thru poverty and not having any other options.

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We also need to look at the fact that there are people who divide Liberlanders into 2 groups settlers and suits. There are reforms that must be made but I think some people are going about it the wrong way, they way have the right intentions but the implementation is nonexistent and being done by shady people.

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They still have a chance to turn it around, at least until the Croatians step away and the land is turned over. At that point I doubt it would be easy to change course.

If I was a settler I would try to implement one of the unofficial voting apps mentioned in my original post. That way they can show proof to the suits that the majority of them feel a unified way about any issue, and also that the settlers vote for specific congressmen and the purchased voting power is always what overturns their wishes.

I wish we had an app tool like that in my old job; upper management always tried to lie and say that the workers overall sided with them. It would have been nice to show them proof that they were lying right after they tried to lie.

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Murf what do you think would be the best way to approach this I firmly believe in the direct democracy approach these apps do. Which one would best?

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Some of them require an “IT guy” to figure out like Liquidfeedback and Decidim. Some cost money like Loomio at $399/year.

I just joined CitizenOS. It is easy and looks good. I guess we could start our own group in there, but I’m not sure how it works. Maybe us two could start a group and go from there…?

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I think @Murf is being a bit too modest he created a democracyOS group for us here

https://app.citizenos.com/groups/join/ZkKdqD33gTfm

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I’ve been tinkering with the CitizenOS app. I figured out how to add thumbnails to topics. And I think the best way is to create a pro/con discussion and then right after create a vote on the same topic.

Potentially you could create a “idea-gathering” topic first and then create the other 2 right after. That way there can be: new ideas, critical talk about the ideas and then voting. Seems to be a good way to do it going forward.

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I will have to take a look at it