The next gen of prisons

Before I get into the new prison idea, I will say this new prison idea HAS to be coupled with death penalty punishment. And there should be mandatory death penalty if convicted of certain crimes. Premeditated murder: DEATH PENALTY. Rape of a child under 13: DEATH PENALTY. Premeditated torture: DEATH PENALTY. Some crimes are too wicked to ever come back from. No painless lethal injection either and no privacy; public hanging (10 different button pushing executioners, so none knows which button worked).

In my research into Norway’s criminal justice system I stumbled into the case of the mass shooter that killed 77 people, mostly children, in 2011. When he was sentenced in 2012, the maximum allowable sentence was 21 years (this is for any type of amount of crime). Later I think they moved it to 30 years. Since Norway is so small, nearly every citizen knows someone affected by this event. When you read through the comments sections, many Norwegian people are bitterly unhappy with their justice system in this case. Many of these people vow that if the killer is ever released he will be “disappeared” by any number of hurt parties. The killer already went up for parole in Dec 2024 but was denied. Kill 77 people and be up for parole after 13 years? I don’t understand how anyone could defend this system…

NEW PRISON SYSTEM
This new prison system utilizes a better understanding of human nature and psychology and in some ways utilizes the military’s “break them down, so that you can build them back up” methodology.

Step 1 (Shunning) After sentencing, the prisoner is taken to the prison and put into a “tower.” The tower will be constructed similar to how a fire lookout tower is constructed in America, only without the outer balcony. (Theoretically, to save costs, individual cell cabins, not towers, could be built on a hill overlooking the prison yard)

There will be many such towers, but they have to be placed far enough apart from each other to prevent the prisoners from talking to each other and to prevent them from communicating with anyone on the ground. The entire time they are in the tower, no in-person human will speak to them. Robots on a track will deliver them meals. There will be cameras above them and they will have a whiteboard and marker to pass messages to guard staff in case of medical emergency. There are also methods of monitoring vital signs for health purposes that can be installed in their cell.

They will have a view of the prison yard where the Step 2 prisoners will be visible to them, but they will not be close enough to interact. A few times a day, the TV in the tower cell will turn on and there will be videos played that have messages about their crimes, what they did wrong, and how they can improve themselves and become the type of person society needs them to be. All videos will have AI voices, not real human voices.

Their length of stay in the Shunning phase will depend on their overall sentence. There is a certain period of years before the body mostly releases past trauma, which for me is about 2-3 years before those past memories no longer trouble me. So the thinking is to keep the prisoner isolated long enough to let past trauma leave their body, without any negative influences that can come from other prisoners or guards.

The psychological effect could be described as letting the prisoner know that they aren’t wanted or trusted in any part of society (even the step 2 communal prison) and that even communication with other human beings is a privilege. They get to see other people from far away so they feel that the ability to be close is a privilege. We want to facilitate their desire to earn the trust back by internalizing the video messages.

A secondary effect from this type of Shunning method (no human communication) is that we can also protect our guards from feeling like they have to be the punishers of the wicked. I don’t believe it is good for them mentally to be in the mode of dishing out justice. This can lead them to narcissistic traits and damage their personal relationships. I once had a neighbor who was a guard at a prison and he bragged about how he could “beat the shit” out of prisoners without repercussion. I lost all trust for this guy after that.

Many of the negative effects that have come from previous use, by prisons, of putting someone into “solitary confinement” are due to the unhealthy conditions of the cell into which they are confined. These prisoners don’t get fresh air or interaction with sunlight which are mandatory for the body. They replaced the sun with dangerous phosphorescent lighting and gave inmates chemically processed food, neither of which helps to rebuild a body into someone that can be trusted by society. I believe the fire lookout tower style cell can solve all these problems traditionally created by solitary confinement. Direct sun from south facing windows or indirect sun from north facing windows. Computer controlled openings in Windows can allow passage of fresh air. Heating and cooling can come from the base of the tower when necessary. The cell can be circular with the bed in the middle to allow the inmate to walk around the cell for exercise.

Step 2 (Community) At this stage the prisoner is introduced to the communal prison. This has to be a reflection of a somewhat-well-functioning society. Step 2 prison will utilize lessons learned from notable prisons around the world, such as Cebu prison in the Philippines where the inmates have mandatory choreographed dance exercise time, and this greatly assists with making a harmonious prison. Prisoners will have a schedule emulating a 5 day workweek, but the work will be maintaining/cleaning the prison, growing their own food, cooking/serving the food to others, and also choreographed dance exercise. Videos with messaging will continue in this stage, but can be watched communally. No outside media will be allowed as the messaging from Hollywood is always questionable.

Guards don’t need to yell or act aggressively towards inmates in Step 2, they just ask an inmate to do what is requested. Prisoners who break serious rules in Step 2 will be sent back to Step 1.

The psychology of this phase is that they have earned being in Step 2 by successful completion of Step 1, and they will want to work hard to achieve Step 3. They will learn about how a harmonious society feels (perhaps they have never experienced this).

Step 3 (Preparation for re-introduction) This part of the prison will be partially modeled after Halden and Bastoy prisons in Norway. Each prisoner gets their own room and will spend their workweek still doing maintenance on the prison, but also learning and practicing some job skills, such as automotive repair, cooking, etc. Prisoners act more as mentors than guards. The costs must be lower than what is spent on Halden or Bastoy as this is one of the bigger criticisms of Norway’s prisons; I believe a new system can get similar results at a much lower cost. Prisoners who break serious rules in Step 3 will be sent back to Step 2, or Step 1 if necessary.

Prisoners will spend a maximum of one year of their sentence in Step 3 (or less if their overall sentence is short). Halden and Bastoy also face criticisms of being luxury resorts for inmates, and so our new system will avoid this by only allowing a small percentage of their sentence to be in Step 3. Example: a guy convicted of manslaughter and given 20 years, might spend the first 3-5 years in the Step 1 tower cell, 14-16 years in Step 2 communal prison, and 1 year in Step 3.

Regardless of the sentence length, all prisoners need to successfully complete the minimum amount of time in each of the 3 steps. There will be no shortening of sentences for “good behavior” or anything like that. I believe that shortening of sentences is always a slap in the face to victims.

The idea is very interesting however I feel that the death penalty may not be something everyone can get behind. Personally I think there should be one but what concerns me the most is can we be 110% sure this person right here committed crime X. There is a saying that goes I would rather let 10 bad people live than kill 1 innocent person be wrongfully executed, and I agree with that statement. Also for me I agree with the step system you have proposed but I would also like to add that anyone that commits the listed crimes you have listed for a death sentence that they be forever in step 1. I think that the lack of human attention but that it is within sight but will never be achieved for the rest of their life would be even worse than death. I would be interested to see what the suicide rate among that population would be.

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Yeah I figured people would be divided on the death penalty. I have spent my whole working career around death, in the military or working on an ambulance, so I have very specific ideas on what death means and how we should treat it.

Most people are taught about death only through media and have no direct experience. Media generally teaches that we should preserve life always, no matter what, and even many healthcare workers have this view because it is intertwined in their view of themselves as heroes.

People need to go spend time in nursing homes. I’ve actually included this in my irrevocable living trust that will pass on my inheritance; that the inheritor will have to spend at least 6 months working in a nursing home. What better way to try to guarantee some sort of responsibility and morality than forcing them to serve dying human beings.

Anyways, I would be willing to give up on the death penalty if it is swapped for lifetime isolation in a tower cell. And I agree with you Martin, this is probably worse than death. Maybe we can give them the option to choose the death penalty for themselves and thus save taxpayers a lot of money.

I just had an idea so I’ll put it here. If the new society adopts my mandatory 6 months law enforcement training for all 24 year old citizens from the “2 law enforcement groups that check and balance each other” thread, why not make it a full year and have the 2nd 6 months be training to be a nursing assistant and working in nursing homes and hospice care. It would be doubly useful, as the youth would learn about the inevitability of death and why we need compassion for others in their time of need, and the senior citizens in the nursing homes and under hospice would benefit from being around the youthful vitality of the young people. Maybe I found my next thread topic.

Edit Add-In: I’m second-guessing my idea above because in the new country we don’t have healthcare set up as a function of the state. So if we had these young people doing mandatory service in nursing homes it would be taking away from private healthcare businesses. But I will keep it open in my mind to maybe add something else to the mandatory training period of 24 year old citizens.

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Thank you Murf for agreeing with me on the serving life in the tower and yes I agree with you that after a time they may ask for the death penalty. I am not sure how would address it in the law but I would think it would be allowed just like assisted suicide should be allowed too. Maybe label it as assisted suicide but it’s not really?

The idea of the other 6 months in a nursing home I find very absurd but that is my opinion.

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Haha yes I may be getting too stream-of-consciousness in my writing style here, and should go back to sitting on ideas for days before posting. To be fair to the idea though, it works perfectly in a gluing-society-together sort of way, but it is also absurd in other ways, such as forcing govt power into private spaces. Half-good ideas can lead directly to good ideas.

This concept may be too outside-the-box for the folks on this forum, but I believe in the future, the latent psychic-ness of all human beings will be in use more by society. For instance right now, the group of remote viewers called Future Forecasting Group is publicly releasing their “psychic” viewings of the following month. They successfully and publicly forecasted the tsunami in the Pacific Ocean several weeks before it happened as well as many other events that they successfully see each month.

In the future, when this kind of ability is accepted by the general public I can absolutely see it being brought into the criminal justice arena and used as a supplemental tool to ensure that nothing like executing an innocent man occurs. Since I know unfamiliar people are taught to immediately scoff at any mention of psychic-ness, I urge any such readers to take an hour and go watch some of their viewings and do some simple statistics as to their accuracy rate because it is far outside the range of just being chance.

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All ideas are needed no matter how far out there they may seem those are the ones that usually when brought together with other ideas make the greatest solutions!

Martin, I have an important question to ask you. And I only ask, because I have noticed a disturbing trend amongst my friends and family over the last five years. When I bring up a subject that triggers their middle school response, as in anything that could get them mocked by their peers in middle school, they will immediately freeze up and refuse to participate further in the conversation. Such subjects can include: the efficacy of vaccines despite them never having investigated it, the possibility of elections being rigged despite them not having looked at any of the evidence, and the presence of white fibrous clots appearing in deceased bodies since 2021 despite them not having looked into the evidence for this also.

Since these people refuse to second-guess anything told to them by the TV and being unwilling to engage their “intellect” on any subject that goes against the perceived “herd” opinion, I have the right to refer to them as intellectual cowards. Because this is quite literally what they are.

Before I ask you the question, I will give you a little backstory. With my past history as part of the special operations community, for some reason, in 2018 I found myself looking at books written by other special operations guys. I somehow came to a book called Psychic Warrior written by former Army Ranger Captain David Morehouse. A quick look at the synopsis tells me the book was about a “psychic” program run by the Army. Knowing how incredibly important your reputation is to the warriors within these groups, I had to ask myself “why would this Army Ranger sabotage his credibility like this? Or was he telling the truth in this book?” In the seven years since, I have learned about a plethora of things that the people practicing the methodology called remote viewing have correctly “seen” in their viewings, including where to recover the bodies of missing US servicemen, a hideout used to stash kidnapee Patty Hearst, Saddam Hussein’s plan for the first gulf war, and within the last 3 years it has been info given each month about what events will happen in the following month and also about cryptocurrencies; ie which to invest in, what the future charts might look like. And I have been able to make a living just off crypto returns, mostly with the data from FFG viewers because I’m not that great of a trader.

So my question to you is: am I a stupid buffoon? Am I a misguided dumbass getting played for 7 years with false info? Where did the 100’s of verified correct predictions about the future come from; are they illusions of my imagination? If there’s even a tiny chance of this being true, isn’t it worth looking into, even if only on behalf of your financial portfolio?

And I said this was an important question, because the intellectual cowards that I describe up in paragraph 1, they might as well be non-player-characters. In simple terms, interacting with them is about as useful as interacting with a pile of rocks.

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It is unwise to communicate with me as my stupidity may spread. Definitely do not watch the five videos below where Ed Riordan in Nov 2017 describes COVID 19 (named for 2019) and the spike protein and white fibrous clots for nearly five hours. No, he is not talking about something that will happen 2 years in his future; do not believe your lying eyes. It is best to refer back to blue-haired-liberal controlled Wikipedia for any questions about how the world works. And if that fails, just repeat this mantra over and over, “No one would ever lie to me to control me.”

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A very interesting perspective that you bring up and I do think that the metaphysical world does need to be at least taken not as a laughing stock. “Science” as the western world sees it will never take it seriously but I wonder from a statistical stand point what the confidence rate would be for these readings. And don’t get me started on the scamdemic of 2019 the westernized medicine pulpit everyone through and that governments used it to see how complacent their populations would be.

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Good thing you two are aware of biggest psyop/scam/hoax operation in the world so far. It was far-reaching, multiple-goals operation and it even dabbles with spiritual world: it was, among other things, huge satanic ritual. Good thing many people opened their eyes and minds and understood we’re dealing with enormous amount of psycho-social manipulation, so I don’t think similar attempt would again be this successful.

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Marko, I’m glad you mentioned the S word. Because every time I mention the satanic religion people end the conversation with me. I even had one family member argue with me that there was no such thing as the church of satan. So I had to look it up in front of him, and yes, obviously it is a registered religion in the US and other countries. These scumbags can operate out in the open and yet their mind control over the populace is so strong the public doesn’t even believe they exist.

Liberland, or any other forward thinking country, simply must take a stance on issues like deep state billionaires running country-wide psyops, satanic/luciferian religions covertly initiating vulnerable people into ritual blackmail schemes, and countries like Israel that gift free citizenship to foreign politicians. These issues are big enough now that official govt discussion is mandatory.

Martin, your response is a good start. But, if you have no experience in this realm, you simply must admit it is remarkable that Ed described future happenings with extreme detail and accuracy! That is amazing! Those with cognitive dissonance either act like this didn’t happen or pretend that it is no big deal. It is a big deal! It took Ed over 20 years to get that good.

And confidence level is definitely where your mind should be at when getting into this realm. Some % of the data is considered incorrect or “noise.” But think of remote viewing as the research science arm of the psychic world. They invented it as a scientifically rigorous and repeatable method and many different groups have been refining the method since the 70’s. There has been a bunch of research science done on remote viewing using public funds, without informing the public on what the results were. Below is one recent study done on it in 2023 that talks about confidence levels. I’m not sure if they are referencing untrained people. Statistically, trained people are much more accurate.

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Satanic rituals are all too real and many such symbols and rituals are hidden in plain sight just look at the back of the USD $1 bill for instance, it’s everywhere!!!

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The big question is what should a govt of the future do about things like religions (satanism/luciferianism) that shelter psychopaths and pedophiles? And the broader question is what should govt do about secret societies in general? We should be able to get them under RICO laws but that hasn’t proved very effective in the past.

Freedom of religion has gone way too far in America and been twisted via wordplay. Anything with a weekly service and a “special” book can bring all the special protections from the state that the rest of us don’t get to enjoy.

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Murf have you ever heard of the beer church, pot church or drug church where people use the religious freedom restoration act to get around those uses? Here is one article about a case that went to the US Supreme Court Supreme Court Rules that Religious Group Can Use Illegal Drug in their Worship Services | Pew Research Center .

I was hoping someone would bring the topic of how organizations not just in the US but UK as well that I am aware of and maybe other more religiously tolerant countries where such nefarious actions are allowed because of the freedom of religion. I have never been a huge fan of that right I understand why it was so coveted in the United States because that is how the colonies got started in the first place, but they are taking advantage of that right. The principle Liberland has established in where most anything is allowed as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others in my opinion is a good measuring stick. What I mean by this is that if a “church” does a “sacrifice” of an actual human being whether or not that person consents to it is unlawful no what matter what. These unexplained and unsolved child abductions think are a huge component of this racket and there needs to be huge penalties attached to this. The law against slavery that Liberland has is very robust and should be used to its fullest extent in this context. Yes the wordplay of legalese to protect these people is abhorrent and I only agree that RICO laws should be used if there is actual documentation that people are being defrauded of their money in a way that they may not know they are being manipulated in a racketeering business.

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No I haven’t heard of those but it doesn’t surprise me. The beer church is a protected place but actual Christian churches were getting shut down during the scamdemic, disgusting.

I only mentioned RICO because the luciferian churches have, according to Zachary King former satanic high wizard, operated as a front for distribution of child pornography. It is only sold to other satanists and so it is very hard for law enforcement to bust them.

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Just a little remark. I think thing such is “illegal drug” should not exist in Liberland. Everyone should be free to ingest whatever they please. Nobody and especilly not government should have any interference with that.

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Exactly my point about churches, they are not treated equally as the law in the US requires of governments.

The RICO situation you bring up is interesting that’s how the Al Capone was brought down in the 1930’s here in the US using the tax evasion laws not the RICO but for a society where taxes are voluntary, tax evasion wouldn’t be a crime but RICO where there is an actual victim can and should be taken down!

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Mario you are correct the “if it’s illegal in Croatia, it is illegal here” is a very bad capitulation, I see why but it is a bad idea no matter what. Politics aside, countries only do things unilaterally when the other country is a strong power or it is a bloc like the EU or NATO where countries must unilaterally pass certain laws or do certain actions to be admitted. If they think this would satisfy Croatia I highly doubt it though in my opinion.

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Marko, should drugs in Liberland also be legal for visitors from other countries? LL may become a tourism drug spot the way Amsterdam was for decades.