# General

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## [About the General category](https://forum.liberland.org/t/about-the-general-category/3)

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**Author:** [@system](https://forum.liberland.org/u/system)\
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**Last updated:** [October 17, 2022, 5:18am UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/about-the-general-category/3 "2022-10-17T05:18:19Z")

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Create topics here that don’t fit into any other existing category or subcategory. Accessible also to Newbies.

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## [Enact your legal system! Someone cheated in your elections! Enact your legal system immediately!](https://forum.liberland.org/t/enact-your-legal-system-someone-cheated-in-your-elections-enact-your-legal-system-immediately/1522)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/enact-your-legal-system-someone-cheated-in-your-elections-enact-your-legal-system-immediately/1522 "2026-10-04T19:13:38Z")

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Am I taking crazy pills or is enacting the legal system the appropriate response to someone cheating in an election? If you can’t enact it because there is no system to enact, then why are you having elections before th…

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## [So no real investigation into election tampering? Sounds like the US, and Brazil, and Serbia, and](https://forum.liberland.org/t/so-no-real-investigation-into-election-tampering-sounds-like-the-us-and-brazil-and-serbia-and/1520)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 2, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/so-no-real-investigation-into-election-tampering-sounds-like-the-us-and-brazil-and-serbia-and/1520 "2026-10-02T21:19:13Z")

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So the proof of election tampering, which is a treasonous crime in many countries and often can result in the death penalty, is apparently proven decisively in Liberland by posting a few screenshots that are incomprehens…

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## [Volunteer to Help Liberland - Gain LLM / Your Ideas](https://forum.liberland.org/t/volunteer-to-help-liberland-gain-llm-your-ideas/42)

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**Author:** [@Michal\_Ptáčník](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Michal_Pt%C3%A1%C4%8Dn%C3%ADk)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/volunteer-to-help-liberland-gain-llm-your-ideas/42 "2026-09-30T17:05:45Z")

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In this thread, you can share ideas with us about jobs that you might want to perform for Liberland and gain LLM. You will get paid according to the general market situation in middle Europe/the Balkans for the given job…

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## [Hopefully there's a 3rd party looking into those election results; oh wait nvm monarchs don't need 3rd party anything](https://forum.liberland.org/t/hopefully-theres-a-3rd-party-looking-into-those-election-results-oh-wait-nvm-monarchs-dont-need-3rd-party-anything/1519)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2026, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/hopefully-theres-a-3rd-party-looking-into-those-election-results-oh-wait-nvm-monarchs-dont-need-3rd-party-anything/1519 "2026-09-28T18:44:17Z")

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If the Big4 say there has been election tampering then surely it is true. They would never abuse their total power even though there is no penalty or repercussion for them abusing their powers. Technically they could eng…

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## [REMINDER: No debates on monarchy, all other debates are ok](https://forum.liberland.org/t/reminder-no-debates-on-monarchy-all-other-debates-are-ok/1509)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2026, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/reminder-no-debates-on-monarchy-all-other-debates-are-ok/1509 "2026-09-14T18:11:50Z")

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Don’t fight it. The monarchy is here to stay. Despite the fact that it is the most important debate that should be had, you will anger powerful people if you question it, so just keep those thoughts to yourself, pleb.

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## [The Big4 wait for Croatia to reconsider Liberland, while we wait for the Big4 to reconsider monarchy](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-big4-wait-for-croatia-to-reconsider-liberland-while-we-wait-for-the-big4-to-reconsider-monarchy/1506)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 9, 2026, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-big4-wait-for-croatia-to-reconsider-liberland-while-we-wait-for-the-big4-to-reconsider-monarchy/1506 "2026-09-09T19:18:17Z")

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It’s a bit of a paradox. Naviq Vituslaw absolutely refuses to even consider removing the monarchy part of Liberland; no public discussion about it, no common sense review, they refuse to even publicly acknowledge that t…

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## [This Greek island solved its rubbish problem - by getting rid of its landfill entirely](https://forum.liberland.org/t/this-greek-island-solved-its-rubbish-problem-by-getting-rid-of-its-landfill-entirely/1504)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [September 5, 2026, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/this-greek-island-solved-its-rubbish-problem-by-getting-rid-of-its-landfill-entirely/1504 "2026-09-05T20:05:54Z")

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I’m a bit sceptical of their claims, but they say everything can be sorted into 3 main categories: organics 30%, recyclables 60%, and fuel for cement plants 10%. I’m assuming that cement plant fuel just means vaporizatio…

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## [Will Liberlands "Deny-Til-You-Die" strategy make it to the finish line?](https://forum.liberland.org/t/will-liberlands-deny-til-you-die-strategy-make-it-to-the-finish-line/1503)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 5, 2026, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/will-liberlands-deny-til-you-die-strategy-make-it-to-the-finish-line/1503 "2026-09-05T15:08:08Z")

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Clearly Naviq Vituslaw’s strategy is: Deny there is any problem. Ignore any criticisms. Refuse any compromise with the Plebs. Carry on like everyone is happy. Keep mining rich guys for investment money. Hope they don’t…

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## [Liberpulco debating the pros/cons of monarchies in special interactive symposium!?](https://forum.liberland.org/t/liberpulco-debating-the-pros-cons-of-monarchies-in-special-interactive-symposium/1491)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 17, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/liberpulco-debating-the-pros-cons-of-monarchies-in-special-interactive-symposium/1491 "2026-08-17T17:53:02Z")

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Lol, no just kidding around. They don’t want any debate on monarchy. They aren’t going to take any votes or polls on monarchy. They aren’t open to anyone asking questions about their monarchy. They are just going to …

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## [The Fork in the Road: Liberland’s Growing Political Divide and the Urgent Need for Maturity](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-fork-in-the-road-liberland-s-growing-political-divide-and-the-urgent-need-for-maturity/1478)

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**Author:** [@Martin\_Bates](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Martin_Bates)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2026, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-fork-in-the-road-liberland-s-growing-political-divide-and-the-urgent-need-for-maturity/1478 "2026-08-05T23:25:34Z")

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Please note that these opinions are wholly mine and are not to, in anyway meant to pin one group of people against another, but has been written in the most fair and objective way that I have been able to write. For mor…

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## [You Will Own Nothing: DRM, Kill Switches, Privacy Erosion, and the Fight Over Real Ownership](https://forum.liberland.org/t/you-will-own-nothing-drm-kill-switches-privacy-erosion-and-the-fight-over-real-ownership/1481)

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**Author:** [@Martin\_Bates](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Martin_Bates)\
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**Last updated:** [August 5, 2026, 10:41am UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/you-will-own-nothing-drm-kill-switches-privacy-erosion-and-the-fight-over-real-ownership/1481 "2026-08-05T10:41:19Z")

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You Will Own Nothing: DRM, Kill Switches, Privacy Erosion, and the Fight Over Real Ownership In late June 2026, Sony notified PlayStation users that more than 550 Studio Canal movies and shows they had previously “purch…

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## [Vit-"We created a monarchy", Berwick-"Sounds like the free-est country on Earth", Huh?](https://forum.liberland.org/t/vit-we-created-a-monarchy-berwick-sounds-like-the-free-est-country-on-earth-huh/1476)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [July 25, 2026, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/vit-we-created-a-monarchy-berwick-sounds-like-the-free-est-country-on-earth-huh/1476 "2026-07-25T18:05:32Z")

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Someone here must be retarded, and perhaps it is me. Because, for the life of me, I cannot figure out how when someone says that part of the govt is a monarchy and then Jeff says it sounds like “the free-est country on E…

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## [The "solarpunk" aesthetic is leading some to re-imagining cities](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-solarpunk-aesthetic-is-leading-some-to-re-imagining-cities/1473)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [July 21, 2026, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-solarpunk-aesthetic-is-leading-some-to-re-imagining-cities/1473 "2026-07-21T04:19:55Z")

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## [Fascinating society in China that doesn't use marriage, all children are raised by mom's family](https://forum.liberland.org/t/fascinating-society-in-china-that-doesnt-use-marriage-all-children-are-raised-by-moms-family/1469)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 19, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/fascinating-society-in-china-that-doesnt-use-marriage-all-children-are-raised-by-moms-family/1469 "2026-07-19T16:12:48Z")

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## [Idk man, it feels exactly like "money buys votes"](https://forum.liberland.org/t/idk-man-it-feels-exactly-like-money-buys-votes/1468)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [July 17, 2026, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/idk-man-it-feels-exactly-like-money-buys-votes/1468 "2026-07-17T16:52:29Z")

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Literally paper currency buys you merits which gets you votes. People too poor to buy them don’t get them. “Yeah but you can put in your time and get merits!” Ok, I have put in hundreds of hours of my time creating govt …

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## [Child custody, child support, marriage, divorce, alimony](https://forum.liberland.org/t/child-custody-child-support-marriage-divorce-alimony/824)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [July 15, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/child-custody-child-support-marriage-divorce-alimony/824 "2026-07-15T21:18:26Z")

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\[Problems\] Child Custody - Many countries like Japan, India, the Philippines, Sweden, Turkey, Algeria, and Greece almost always automatically grant custody to the mother, regardless of circumstance. Child Support - I c…

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## [(piece-by-piece Constitution) Freedom to E-Organize Groups](https://forum.liberland.org/t/piece-by-piece-constitution-freedom-to-e-organize-groups/1462)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [July 10, 2026, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/piece-by-piece-constitution-freedom-to-e-organize-groups/1462 "2026-07-10T20:18:03Z")

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(This is my ongoing series presenting pieces that I am formulating into my own constitution for any future country \[including LL\]. The wording is not set and is open to changes/additions/subtractions. Posting about it is…

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## [Prospera is getting more interesting](https://forum.liberland.org/t/prospera-is-getting-more-interesting/1448)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [July 6, 2026, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/prospera-is-getting-more-interesting/1448 "2026-07-06T17:38:16Z")

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## [The Election Standard For All Future Countries (Hopefully)](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-election-standard-for-all-future-countries-hopefully/1197)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/the-election-standard-for-all-future-countries-hopefully/1197 "2026-07-01T16:56:12Z")

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Election Process Here is how I see the e-voting process going in the future: 10 day period to scroll-through the elections/issues and to watch any 1-minute-videos that have been prepared for or against any person/issu…

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## [Gambling sites are abuzz! Will Naviq Vituslaw backed candidates sweep all positions?](https://forum.liberland.org/t/gambling-sites-are-abuzz-will-naviq-vituslaw-backed-candidates-sweep-all-positions/1446)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2026, 4:36am UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/gambling-sites-are-abuzz-will-naviq-vituslaw-backed-candidates-sweep-all-positions/1446 "2026-06-28T04:36:21Z")

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Haha, just kidding, of course they will. Although you never know, maybe hackers will infiltrate the system and change the results in favor of the underdogs. All the LL peasants just have to put all their eggs in the one…

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## [Sounds like Liberland is finding out what happens when you allow 4 people to hold 60% of all the power](https://forum.liberland.org/t/sounds-like-liberland-is-finding-out-what-happens-when-you-allow-4-people-to-hold-60-of-all-the-power/1445)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [June 25, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/sounds-like-liberland-is-finding-out-what-happens-when-you-allow-4-people-to-hold-60-of-all-the-power/1445 "2026-06-25T17:34:52Z")

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After listening to the debate (which had some interesting moments) it sounds like Liberland is finding out what happens when you allow 4 people to hold 60% of all the power. And the main thing that happens is: the avera…

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## [New money rumors](https://forum.liberland.org/t/new-money-rumors/1442)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [June 23, 2026, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/new-money-rumors/1442 "2026-06-23T01:08:46Z")

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@martin There have been rumors in the precious metal community since 2021 when they introduced an indentation notch in gold and silver US Mint coins. The rumor is that to introduce a new monetary system that allows for u…

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## [Are the powerful Liberlanders part of the Dark Enlightenment?](https://forum.liberland.org/t/are-the-powerful-liberlanders-part-of-the-dark-enlightenment/1433)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [June 18, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/are-the-powerful-liberlanders-part-of-the-dark-enlightenment/1433 "2026-06-18T14:31:05Z")

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My understanding is that fans of the “dark enlightenment” believe that nations should be run like corporations with a single CEO or maybe by a corporate board of several people. This seems like a strange conclusion as i…

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## [Liberland Naval Fleet](https://forum.liberland.org/t/liberland-naval-fleet/1435)

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**Author:** [@Valerio\_Curti](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Valerio_Curti)\
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**Last updated:** [June 13, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/liberland-naval-fleet/1435 "2026-06-13T21:22:31Z")

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On the 29th of September 2020 at 19:03 I wrote to press@liberland.org the following: “Dear Sirs, I have been following Liberland ever since its beginning. Now that as homeless, not willing to contribute to the fiat mon…

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## [Apparently a lot more people are working on digital direct democracy ideas than I thought](https://forum.liberland.org/t/apparently-a-lot-more-people-are-working-on-digital-direct-democracy-ideas-than-i-thought/1420)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2026, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/apparently-a-lot-more-people-are-working-on-digital-direct-democracy-ideas-than-i-thought/1420 "2026-06-10T03:45:29Z")

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So a lot of people have been working on digital direct democracy and, in some places, they are even using some software tools I’ve hadn’t heard of but seem interesting. And yet Liberland, the only place that could implem…

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## [I wonder what Ron Paul thinks about the eternal ownership of govt Senate seats... So I asked him](https://forum.liberland.org/t/i-wonder-what-ron-paul-thinks-about-the-eternal-ownership-of-govt-senate-seats-so-i-asked-him/1404)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [May 11, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/i-wonder-what-ron-paul-thinks-about-the-eternal-ownership-of-govt-senate-seats-so-i-asked-him/1404 "2026-05-11T21:33:35Z")

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Perhaps he will come out strongly in favor of the eternal Senate seat system, you just never know. Either way, if he responds, it will be quite a fun time. Message sent: Liberland has had some interactions with Ron Pau…

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## [A Fun Thought Project](https://forum.liberland.org/t/a-fun-thought-project/1405)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [May 11, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/a-fun-thought-project/1405 "2026-05-11T19:07:15Z")

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Scenario: You win the lottery for $100 billion. You have the goal to make the city of the future within the US. You find a county with a low population (only a couple thousand) and start buying up land acreage and rent…

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## [States Where Counties Can Choose Not to Use the State-Adopted Building Code](https://forum.liberland.org/t/states-where-counties-can-choose-not-to-use-the-state-adopted-building-code/1408)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [May 8, 2026, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/states-where-counties-can-choose-not-to-use-the-state-adopted-building-code/1408 "2026-05-08T23:41:02Z")

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States Where Counties Can Choose Not to Use the State-Adopted Building Code Based on state law summaries, building code statutes, and local government authority: State Notes Alabama Counties may adopt the state …

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## [Responsibilities of US Counties Mandated by States](https://forum.liberland.org/t/responsibilities-of-us-counties-mandated-by-states/1407)

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**Author:** [@Murf](https://forum.liberland.org/u/Murf)\
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**Last updated:** [May 8, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.liberland.org/t/responsibilities-of-us-counties-mandated-by-states/1407 "2026-05-08T22:54:56Z")

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I have to confess I did not even realize that such a list of mandated things existed or was different state-to-state until the recent exchange with Martin. Now I realize why counties are so copy-and-paste between each ot…

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